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Where are some locations the trail should avoid?

Are there any locations that may pose a challenge to trail routes through a particular area? This may include things such as:

  • Steep slopes (significant grade changes can make it difficult or impossible for some trail users),
  • Wetlands and water features (constructing a trail though wetlands and waterways such as creeks, lakes, or rivers increase construction costs and may present future maintenance issues for the trail),
  • Heavy traffic volumes or high vehicle speeds along adjacent or intersecting roadways (these may pose a danger to trail users).

Please indicate on the map and describe in the comments where there may be challenges to a trail route.

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9 months 2 weeks ago

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steep hill on D ave for cyclist also RR crossing needed
Response from Jim Goodknecht
This location for a trail is simply not feasible. There are sections of this hill that exceed a 10% gradient which is outside the abilities of 85% of users and would not pass ADA guidelines. THERE ARE THREE DUPLICATE COMMENTS. THIS IS CONFUSING. PLEASE REMOVE BOTH OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE LOCATED NORTH OF D AVE.
9 months 2 weeks ago

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RR crossing and steep hill
Response from Jim Goodknecht
This location for a trail is simply not feasible. There are sections of this hill that exceed a 10% gradient which is outside the abilities of 85% of users and would not pass ADA guidelines.
Response from Julie
I agree and would probably not use the trail, at all, if it followed douglas. Too many other great trails. However, the trail does already cross the Railroad at the trail head on D ave at the river.
9 months 2 weeks ago

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RR crossing and steep hill
Response from Jim Goodknecht
This location for a trail is simply not feasible. There are sections of this hill that exceed a 10% gradient which is outside the abilities of 85% of users and would not pass ADA guidelines. THERE ARE THREE DUPLICATE COMMENTS. THIS IS CONFUSING. PLEASE REMOVE BOTH OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE LOCATED NORTH OF D AVE.
9 months, 1 week ago

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The elevation of 110th Street is significantly higher than the Consumers Interurban roadbed and will require a culvert going under 110th.
Response from Kevin Patmore
Does an alternate possibility allow for the building up of the trail to the height of 110th street to avoid the expected higher cost of building a culvert large enough for bicycle traffic?
Response from Jim Goodknecht
Kevin, as an old biker dude, building up the Interurban roadbed to the height of 110th Street on the north and south sides would require a substantial amount of fill dirt, not to mention guard rails due to the elevation of the trail. A ramp would be required to meet all ADA requirements. I certainly am not an engineer but it would seem that a tunnel would be less costly and eliminate trail users having to cross 110th Street. In the near future, this will be "engineered" by a company much smarter about this stuff than I am. Thanks for taking the time to become involved in this process - Jim
9 months, 1 week ago

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A well engineering crossing of M-89 at this location needs to be implemented. M-89 is approximately 38 feet wide at this point. Crossing could include an island along with user operated traffic signal or flashing yellow lights. Appropriate signs in advance of the crossing and at the crossing must be part of the design.
Response from Kevin Patmore
Speed limit drops from 55mph to 35mph around this area. May need to ensure this is a 35mph zone to help with safe crossing.
Response from Anonymous
Please conduct actual gap studies of the current traffic on the roadway to assess what kind of gaps exist now. Helps measure what level of investment is needed
5 months 3 weeks ago

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Route 1 will run through my neighbors yards within 100 feet of the house. This does not make anyone feel safe. This is south of wayland all the way to Martin.
Response from TrailsProfessional
There are numerous studies that show that trail development does not bring crime and in fact creates a safer more community focused atmosphere. Oftentimes trails are met with kind of criticism, which is very understandable from adjacent landowners, but time after time landowners actually become the strongest proponents of the trail because of the sense of community and benefits that the trail brings. Many communities are looking forward to the completion of the this trail, bringing transportation and recreation opportunities to the area. Trails are the future!
Response from Kevin Reed
It might be helpful if some current owners of property adjacent to trails would offer to talk with concerned landowners.
5 months 2 weeks ago

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Most of the time the only way to cross 68th street right here is to cross 2 lanes of traffic and then wait in the left turn lane until you can cross the other 2 lanes.
5 months, 1 week ago

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This route will take the trail right through the back yard of families who live out here for the peace and quiet. Route 1 does not come near any existing houses.
Response from Linda vanSteinvoorn
The Musketawa Trail has a similar path near farmland between Marne and Ravenna. The noise from air cannons sounding to keep birds away from fields was louder than anything I have ever heard from humans using the trail. Persons using the trail would be on bikes, rollerblades, skateboards and will likely cause no more disruption than the occasional passing ambulance.
5 months, 1 week ago

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This a beautiful and scenic part of the route. Unfortunately, in this location, it runs at an angle right through this families front yard. They are set back about 200 feet from the road where the proposed trail would cross their drive about half the way to their house, bisecting their front yard.
5 months, 1 week ago

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This trail is currently used by the neighbors in the area for horseback riding under permission of the owners along the trail. Will accommodations for the continued use on horseback be permitted under the proposed trail use?
Response from Jerry
If horses are allowed on soft surfaces like pea gravel or crushed limestone, no one else will enjoy the trail due to horse hoof damage. You might as well just design a horse trail. I recently tried to bike the Pere Marquette trail from Reed City to Baldwin but had to give up and ride back on roads. The gravel trail was unfit due to horse damage and no one seems to care.
Response from Kevin Patmore
Well, currently it is used by horse traffic only. In this case, it the bicyclists who wish to usurp its use from the equestrians.
Response from Kevin Patmore
My wife loves the idea of designing a horse specific trail. Although that is exactly what she has now. Me, I prefer the find a way to do both so we can all enjoy the rural outdoors.
Response from Jim Goodknecht
Kevin, thanks for your input. Concerns regarding the trail accommodating horses was communicated during the public meeting held in Cooper. The planning group will certainly add this to their lists of things to review during the planning process.
5 months, 1 week ago

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Speed limit here is 55mph. Cars regularly are going 60 mph and above.
5 months, 1 week ago

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Proposed Route 1 is preferred by the neighbors who live along this part of Proposed Route 1B. Route 1B would come very close to several of the properties and in one case would bisect a front yard. Proposed Route 1 does not introduce these close passings through this very quiet area but rather runs through remote farming areas.
5 months, 1 week ago

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bisects Auto Auction West Michigan property
2 months, 1 week ago

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Contaminated site
2 months, 1 week ago

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Traffic volumes and speeds are very high along Division Avenue between 68th Street and 84th Street
2 months, 1 week ago

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Vehicles traveling too fast (Division Ave. near 92nd)
2 months, 1 week ago

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Railroad crossing
2 months, 1 week ago

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Landlocked parcel to the west used for farming; local farmers use this part of the Interurban to get farm equipment onto the site
2 months, 1 week ago

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Farmers use Interurban Trail south of 112th Ave to access landlocked farms
2 months, 1 week ago

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Wetlands/ponds make Route 2 difficult north of 110th Ave
2 months, 1 week ago

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Flooding issues with wetlands nearby Route 1 south of 110th Street
2 months, 1 week ago

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Dirt bikers use this section of the Interurban Trail south of 110th Street near Plainwell
2 months, 1 week ago

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Proposed trail runs through residential property near the house
2 months, 1 week ago

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Fast moving vehicles on Douglas Ave make this road unappealing for a bike trial
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